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VIDEO TRANSCRIPTION – The dangers of real firearms training versus movie gun training for actors, stunt performers and filmmakers. Questions and answers you should know plus some disturbing statistics video. That’s what we’ll discuss in today’s video. Hi, my name is Dillon Wilson with CBT Stunt Alliance. Train hard, perform easy. We help actors, stunt performers, filmmakers and content creators learn professional stunt training for use in film, tv and live action performances.
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Okay so people come to us all the time with questions about gun training for use in film and tv. We provide our highly popular online master courses for actors and stunt performers as some have asked if movie prop gun training at home is at all dangerous. Some even suggested that it’s better for actors and stunt performers to go to live fire range and learn how to shoot real firearms for use in film and tv, not for self defense. Well it’s actually the exact opposite, that is true. That’s why we made the home study courses in the first place, so we’re going to share some info with you that you need to know before you consider doing any training with real firearms.
I’m actually an experienced stunt coordinator and armor for film and tv turned full-time director. This is something I plan to do from the beginning of my career. Even attending a graduating film school as a director. Along my journey, I learned that being a director made me a better stunt coordinator and armor and being a stunt coordinator armor made me a better director. Now how this benefits you is that I can share with you insights and experience from both sides of the camera as well as through all phases of production. In addition to the above, I’m also a US army veteran, an NRA certified firearms instructor, an NRA certified range safety officer as well as a long list of other certifications and credentials. Too long to go into in this video. If you can read more about me by clicking on the link below this video as a certified firearms instructor and range safety officer, we’re trained to be on the lookout for the type of things that we’re going to cover in today’s video. We start every session with a safety briefing on what we’ll do in the event that someone gets shot, you know, this includes showing where the first aid kit is located, you know identifying nearby hospitals, evacuation plans, etc and the reason for this is simple, you can get shot and injured or even die. These are real firearms after all, real guns and guess what, people make mistakes and accidents happen all the time. So we’re going to share with you the five dangers of real gun training versus the five positives of movie gun training for actors and stunt performers.
Dangers Of Real Gun Firearms Training #1 – SUICIDES
So you see the search term here suicide at gun ranges or where guns are sold is very important. Let’s take a look at some of the headlines. Suicide gun range is of prompted rule changes, suicides at shooting ranges, essential facts about guns and suicide suicidal customers see a way out at gun ranges, gun range suicides are rare but Naples just saw his third this year. So what people don’t realize is people, you know, some people who aren’t ready to commit suicide that’s where they go. I’m actually going to share a personal story with you once we look at this so we hop over here to the website of the national shooting sports foundation. This is the trade association for the entire firearms industry. This is the advocate for the firearms industry, this is something they have their suicide prevention program for retails and ranges. Let’s check out what they say. dangers of firearms training statistics, dangers of firearms training YouTube video, dangers of firearms training youth, dangers of firearms training with a firearm, dangers of firearms training video, Fort Worth, Georgia, bay area, Everett ma.
Recognizing that nearly two-thirds of all firearm deaths are by suicide NSSF and American foundation yada yada have developed a suicide prevention toolkit to help firearm retailers shooting range operators and customers understand risk factors and warning signs related to suicide, very important. So where do they get this two-thirds number from? Let’s look over here, this is the national library of medicine and here’s what they have to say in total percent of decedents arrived alone to see. This is someone who’s died arrived alone when gun ownership was noted of the guns were rented from the range, they didn’t have their own gun, they went to the range almost out of of them, rented the gun at the range and killed themselves. In some cases, people drove to the range and took their lives in the parking lot with their own gun so it’s important to understand what actually goes on at real gun ranges. It’s not just going there, shooting holes and pieces of paper or steel gongs. Now I actually have a personal uh story experience to share with this, this happened years ago, this is before I became a certified firearms instructor and safety officer. I had like a week off for vacation and you know, I was kind of figuring out what I was going to do in my vacation.
And so I said, hey why not just go like a uh an indoor gun range, you know shoot some guns or something. I haven’t done that in a long time and so I called around and I found this range. Alright, perfect and I asked her hours, the pricing was and I said I’ll come through tomorrow and so right before I left. The next day to go to the range I call one more time because it could get busy and all the lanes might be occupied so I just want to make sure you have a lane lane available for me. They say sure come on down. It was the same guy so we recognized each other for the initial phone conversation, called drove there, it’s like 12 15 minutes away. I get there no more than 12 to 15 minutes later. I pull up to the gun range in my car police vehicles, outside of the gun range, they won’t let me go inside the range and I’m asking the police they won’t tell me what happened so I get back in my car and I’ll call the range and the same guy answers I’m like there’s police cars out here, what happened they’re not letting me inside and he said he said you won’t believe what happened, a man came in here rented a gun went into one of the stalls, put the gun to his head and blew his brains out and I’m like what?
He said yes I said I dude I just called, he said it just happened like right after you called and I could not believe it, you know, here it was a -minute window I mean, this poor man who killed himself it’s poured towards his soul, I’m like 15 minutes ago he was alive. 15 minutes later he’s dead and it’s like what would have happened had I been inside that range with him, you know, been in the stall next to him that bullet could have flown past me, his brains are on everything, that’s why the police wouldn’t let people inside, their brains everywhere I said that would have really kind of messed me up, to be right there and see all that. Maybe even have brains on me or something, it still affects me even now and I didn’t even, you know, it was over there inside the range, it was like maybe you know feet away yet that was it was a very disturbing experience. And I, I will never forget it. If you suspect that someone is even considering committing suicide, contact a national suicide prevention lifeline at – 800-273-8255. dangers of firearms training statistics, dangers of firearms training YouTube video, dangers of firearms training youth, dangers of firearms training with a firearm, dangers of firearms training video, Fort Worth, Georgia, bay area, Everett ma.
Dangers Of Real Gun Firearms Training #2 – Active Shooters At Gun Ranges
You can see here in this article talks about an armed citizen fatally shoots active shooter at Pennsylvania. Gun range people don’t think about this, here’s what happened a 67 year old Pennsylvania man stopped a deadly active shooter incident at the most unlikely of places. A gun range took place in green township, the shooter identified as 26 year old Robert Eppley died at the scene.
Apparently what happened is this guy, the active shooter managed to kill one person before this armed citizen took him out. I remember the uh my firearms instructor who I got certified with as an instructor, shared a story of an incident where he had to intervene on someone who was drawing a gun, you know, trying to either kill himself or someone else and then we heard another story of another RSO who had to shoot a person who was an active shooter, a person took a gun out and started aiming at other people and the RSO warned him and the guy didn’t obey and he had to shoot the guy. The other thing is we did our research and we talked with the national rifle association and even the NSSF, they said that incidents like this are reported locally to local police and hospitals. If there’s no national information compiled on it, you just be aware just like you hear about active shooters popping up all over the place at schools and everything they pop up at gun ranges too, I mean that’s where the guns are.
Dangers Of Real Gun Firearms Training #3 – Instructors Shooting Students
So this is an article about, this is you know, something that a lot of people think about. Yeah, we’ll take a look at this one gun safety instructor who shot student. This is something that happened recently at that time, also shot a girl in 1977. An Ohio firearms instructor who accidentally shot one of the students, this month also shot a 14 year old girl in 1977 . According to the Columbus dispatch, Terry Dunlop was a pickerton pickerington police department auxiliary officer in 1977, when he shot a 14 year old Kathy Hessler in her right leg, oh no he’s done it again, Kessler. Now Kathleen Schmelzer, 50, told the paper, actually heard of the latest shooting. I said, you’ve got to be kidding me, she said according to the dispatch, remember firearms instructors are people, people get distracted, people make mistakes. The difference is when it’s a real gun, people die or get seriously injured.
Dangers Of Real Gun Firearms Training #4 – Students Shooting Instructors
Now, you can do a search of this for yourself, firearms instructors, shiny here by students. You’ll see a bunch of articles and stuff that come up. Once again, these are these are uh statistics that are gathered really locally, there’s no national data yet. Let’s take a look at this one, here so it says why why why firearms instructor shot by a student asks in court and so with this one, this poor guy we hope he’s doing better now, uh he said in court in the courtroom why why why he didn’t understand why his student had shot him and he explained you know, to the judge that you know he’s disabled now look at this, he has continuing health problems including difficulty with his balance and his memory, the lady who shot him was declared insane at the time of the shooting.
So the case of mental illness, there’s so many cases of undiagnosed mental illnesses walking around and you don’t know who is in the stall next to you, when you go to a gun range, it’s just a reality of it and this experienced firearms instructor was actually shot and pretty much disabled for the rest of his life because of a um a student who shot him. Now there there is another famous case, this one here an instructor was actually killed you know by a student. Let’s take a look at the at the video here, the CNN video we’ll just watch a short piece of it an Arizona outdoor gun range, end of summer, family time, together a nine-year-old girl learning how to shoot an automatic UZI by an instructor. dangers of firearms training statistics, dangers of firearms training YouTube video, dangers of firearms training youth, dangers of firearms training with a firearm, dangers of firearms training video, Fort Worth, Georgia, bay area, Everett ma.
Alright, go ahead and give me one shot, all right, all right those faithful last words, all right, full auto, he just put the gun on fully auto and he tells of that and his left hand is holding the bottom of the magazine where it should be somewhere closer to the top of the weapon, she looks very uncomfortable holding the weapon and when she pulls the trigger, he loses the grip on the bottom of the magazine and gets muzzle rise and winds up getting shot. The sheriff’s department says the recoil from the powerful weapon sends the gun out of her control over her head.
39 year old instructor Charles Baca, a member of California’s national guard died later at the hospital. Now, what’s especially horrible about this is you know what happened, the little girl who shot the instructor, she’s traumatized for the rest of her life, this guy seems like a good man, he’s gone, he has a family you know his kids you know or you know are very traumatized by, they even made a video, we’re not going to show all that stuff though they even made a video to the little girl that killed their daddy and this is just the reality of going, you know, to the gun ranges you know. When you’re learning real gun training. Now people who know this, who you know like myself and other people become instructors and we we go routinely to ranges, we know the dangers but in and not, despite this, yet you know, I said because of this, we know we going very safety oriented, we’re always watching, very observing, yet if you’re going there, just to you to learn some skills from movie and tv, you need to know the risks before you actually set foot on a real gun training range.
Dangers Of Real Gun Firearms Training #5 – Actors And Stunt Performers Getting Shot
This is a well-known case, we’ll take a look at this one Hollywood stunt man shot in the back during audition for seal team is a popular tv show called seal team and this guy went to audition for it. You can actually beat this article yourself, do the search for what we just shared with you and here here’s what happens, show now our claims as he led the charge to the doorway, it’s an audition, he was shot behind by the auditioning stunt woman. So these two people were auditioning for the show for some reason, they sent them in to do real gun training on the show where they’re going to use movie gun training, he describes a bullet as entering his upper torso and exiting his upper arm shoulder area, Shonauer did not describe the extent of his injury but said he is unable to work or collect a paycheck since the incident. He’s suing oak tree gun club, the stunt coordinators that sent him there, the firearm instructor and the auditioning stunt woman who fired the rifle. To make matters worse, it also sounds like he didn’t get the role on the show, we hope he’s doing better. Now we hope he’s recovered from his injuries and understand this man almost died for an audition and you know to put his life on the line, you know, because when when a lot of stunt performers and actors you know, come in and they work with a stunt coordinator armor, they put their trust in them so they they’re like oh they wouldn’t send me to do something that could get me hurt.
Well you have to be concerned about your safety priority one and the first thing is understanding the dangers of real gun training right and he could have been killed. If about the bullet in a couple inches to the left or right this would be a story about his death, not him surviving and by the way if someone gets hurt on set, they sue everybody. Imagine that this poor stunt woman who’s traumatized because she almost killed a man, she went there to audition for a show and listening to, you know a a a gun instructor at the range used for some reason, live ammunition and shot and almost killed a man at point blank range right in front of her. She is traumatized for life and experience plus she got sued and had to hire an attorney to defend herself in court and all for what. So they can look cool using guns on a tv show.
Now this takes us to the positives, the five positives and actually more of movie gun training we’re gonna just list five. Here, it is a lot more than just the five so my elite tactical stunt team, I have an elite tactical stunt team too, where we specialize playing like you know, seal team, six delta four swat that sort of thing. We’ve been training actors and stunt performers for years with movie prop guns with zero risk to them or us you can see, any images actually one of the training sessions for a project you know, using plastic movie prop guns and the ends are even the barrels are plugged and even taped up as well, right, eliminating risk to them or us. They and the productions they were cast in loved the results because it’s safer, they can practice more and practice at home and actually become good with this stuff where you can only practice for an hour or a few minutes at a an actual real gun training range, you can’t even do half the stuff at a gun training which you can do with a movie prop gun. When the incident of the shot stuntman that we talked about earlier happened, this cemented in the idea of our online movie gun training and we decided to make the master courses that we mentioned earlier.
Movie Gun Training POSITIVE #1 – NO ONE Gets Hurt Or Killed.
They can’t because there are no dangers when you’re using non-firing prop guns right? The only danger is dropping a thing in your foot, you see, this is an image, here another you know uh training session we had is actually one that was on set uh what’s the worst is gonna happen, there he’s gonna drop the movie prop gun on his foot. That’s pretty much it.
Movie Gun Training POSITIVE #2 – Movie Set Gun Rules Are Different There’s NO Live Fire!
Movie gun training positive tip two: movie set gun rules are different because there’s no live fire we still teach some gun safety rules you know we use an acronym that we we designed called diffu, direction finger unloaded. That’s how our students remember it, you know, you keep always pointing in the safe direction, keep your finger off the trigger until you’re ready to fire and or the armor tells you to do so and keep the fireman loaded until the armor tells you to do so and yet because the rules are different. If you learn rules at a real gun training range, they’re not going to apply to movie gun set because you’re not going to do those things. There’s no live fire right and every and the next point we’re going to cover you we’re going to go get a bit more granular with it. Here’s another shot it’s another shot we were training a group of people a group of actors and stunt performers for an upcoming project.
You see, they all have movie prop guns some solid rubber, some are plastic, some are air soft, you know, plug barrels that kind of thing, safe and everyone’s still having the safety uh the safety lessons and stuff ingrained in them plus they’re learning how to deliver amazing performances. dangers of firearms training statistics, dangers of firearms training YouTube video, dangers of firearms training youth, dangers of firearms training with a firearm, dangers of firearms training video, Fort Worth, Georgia, bay area, Everett ma.
Movie Gun Training POSITIVE #3 – You Don’t Aim Directly At People.
Movie gun training positive tip three: you don’t aim directly at other people. Like in real gun training or self-defense shooting, we use a technique we call our off-body aiming technique, where this is explained in our master course. All of our master courses for firearms where the camera doesn’t have depth perception, only has like one eye, so you can trick the camera and when you are trained in this technique, one of the tricks to trade for professional armor for filming tv you can point a foot to the side of the person get to the camera, it looks like you’re pointing directly at them. This is stuff they have no clue about at real gun training ranges right and we’re gonna cover you know the danger with this in a moment so you don’t actually aim at anybody when you do a movie gun training and what you can see.
Even in the in the uh in the images. Here this is actually another set that we were on you know we’re working with an actor showing them how he’s going to be entering and firing into a clearing a warehouse the entire time he’s safe, there’s people shooting back at him right, yet they’re not in the frame with them and even when they are, they’re never pointing the firearms directly at him. Contrast all this with what they teach you as self-defense shooting classes for real gun training and you see right here in the image, they train you to fire what’s called center mass and that means right here in the center of someone’s chest, that’s what that’s the the go-to shot you’re trained over and over to constantly aim center mass or hear what’s called the cranial vault. These are the two primary targets center mass cranial valve and the key thing is you’re not going to do that on a film set no one’s going to let you point a gun at your head and at their body right, yet they train you to fire you know, at some at people’s foreheads and they train you to fire at people’s hearts.
The net result is you train in bad habits and in a moment of forgetfulness or you know when you’re just called upon to do it, you’re going to instinctively do what you’ve been trained to do regardless of what you convince yourself of, if you’re trained and conditioned to instantly point a gun at someone’s heart or their brain, then that’s what you’re going to do. So when you go and you get real gun training and especially if you’re training with people who aren’t in the film and tv business and don’t address this that’s what you’re going to get or bad habits trained into you and it makes you dangerous. The thing is the difference is movie gun training is not about shooting accurately, like what this is that’s why you see this it’s like a big deal, you got all these bullet holes inside of the little targets and stuff right movie gun training is not about shooting accurately, it’s about safely looking, good having proper form and delivering amazing performances on camera, you’d have to go to the range for for real gun training for years to get that look practicing several times a week, not one or two times.
There’s a look that your your body picks up for through muscle memory and these and the people who look that way have been doing it for years right, yet with movie gun training, it’s the exact opposite you get that look very quickly, because you’re focused on looking good, because that’s what gets you cast is how you look not that you can shoot a hole or holes in pieces of paper, is how you look on camera. That’s why they cast you, so movie gun training focuses on how you look so you actually look really good in a short period of time, instead of having to spend thousands of dollars on bullets and classes and stuff to get the same result.
Movie Gun Training POSITIVE #4 – You Get Teachers With Actual On Set Experience To Guide You
Movie gun training positive tip four: you get teachers with actual on-set experience to guide you. Now in this picture, this is actually I was the armorer, for uh this is a famous globally a famous uh band called quiet riot great bunch of guys, I mean rock legends, thank you, this is actually a western one of their videos they shot and I actually did a movie as well that I was armor and stunt coordinator for and the guy right next to me to my left is the late great Frankie Denali. He was uh it was such an honor to meet him, he is a rock legend, you look him up online, his wife is a wonderful person, amazing, you know, did a great job. I’m still buddies with some of these guys to this very day.
We had a blast, if they had to use, had to train them in how to use revolvers, you know, we were blank firing revolvers for the western and the key thing is it’s totally different when you’re learning from someone who has onset experience, they’re actually able to learn very quickly and deliver really compelling performances and had a blast you know and we had such a good time. Now here’s the thing, though which you should take away from this there are uh tactical firearms instructors and self-defense firearms instructors even guys coming out of military are like seals and special forces and stuff and they put these classes up. Hey I’ll teach you you actors look you suck on television and tv I’ll teach you how to look realistic on on uh you know how realistic you use guns and while their heart may be in the right place they don’t have a freaking clue right. But here’s what you do you ask them one simple question, remember this is your your life and your career, you ask them one simple question, when someone comes to you and says that to you do you have onset experience teaching actors and stunt performers how to perform movie gun choreography, one more time do you have on-set experience teaching actors and stunt performers how to perform movie gun choreography?
That’s it, asking that one simple question, they’ll either answer yes no or they’ll start vomiting from their mouth, well you know a lot of the actors when they have their fingers here a little bit it’s like no so the thing is they don’t have a clue, they’re going to teach you stuff that you will never that the armor will never any professionally trained armor will never let you do on set. Anyway you’re not going to be doing all that stuff they don’t even know that the how it works on set with an armor for filming tv they have no clue now if you have a farms instructor who does and there are some out there like us and even others who actually teach uh real gun training and movie gun training then that’s wonderful. That’s what you want because then you get the best of both worlds so if they say yes I do have onset experience learn from them and don’t just you know stay with one teacher just like people who learn from us, we encourage them to learn from other people too, everyone has something to offer, yeah, that’s what you want to do and the key thing to understand is it’s usually people who don’t know and I guess they at the heart they um they want their opinion to matter so they just say oh you’re an actor go get some real gun training.
No you don’t know what you’re talking about stop talking please, just stop offering an opinion that isn’t qualified or educated right, you wouldn’t tell someone who wants to learn self-defense shooting to study movie gun training likewise you don’t tell someone who wants to learn how to perform and look good on movie and tv sets to take just self-defense shooting. They are two completely different art forms, one is a combat art and the other is performance art. We’re sharing this information with you so that you can make the best decision possible for you and your career.
Lastly we’ll share one final tip with you that you should consider very carefully. Before we do, check this out, let’s take a sneak peek and look inside this master course that was made by pro armors for film and tv stunt coordinators actors and filmmakers for professional actors, stunt performers and filmmakers and content creators.
So well worth the investment if you’re serious about learning movie gun training to finish up we’ll share one final important tip that you should consider before undertaking gun
Movie Gun Training POSITIVE #5 – Determine The Risks Of Movie Gun Training vs Real Gun Training And If Risking Your Life Is Worth It To Simply Book A Gig.
Movie gun training positive tip determine the risks of movie gun training versus real gun training and if risking your life is worth it to simply book a gig i mean that’s what it comes down to is your life worth putting at risk some people decide no you know and again that’s why there’s movie guns trading right yet you mil you may still decide yes remember I’m a certified instructor you know firearm a firearm instructor it’s something i accept and move forward with or you may decide you know that you again you don’t wish to learn real gun training at all and you just wish to do movie gun training which is what the majority of actors and stunt performers do a lot of them don’t really like guns they don’t wish to become you know the avid you know uh firearms practitioners so they don’t do that yeah we actually always encourage performers to get both types of training we we recommend they go start with movie gun training first and then do real gun training and the reason why is because you already have your foundation in movie gun training since that’s what you’re using it for if you’re going to be a police officer we would tell you to give you different advice if you’re an actor stunt performer filmmaker we’re going to tell you to take that first because that’s going to apply directly to what you’re doing plus you learn all the gun safety rules for on set and at gun ranges.
We actually teach that in the class and you know the differences you know that you’ve learned the off body aiming technique you’ve learned how to do scene work you know how to use a gun on a film or tv set and you know all these safety rules beforehand as well as all the warnings so now when you go you take real gun training you go there knowing what you’re doing the only thing that you’re going to really experience differently is the recoil of an actual gun firing a real bullet you know and the sound of it is just getting used to that which you get used to very quickly and it’s a cool experience too that’s why we always encourage people these go at least one time a lot of people go one or two times and they’re they’re happy that’s it right so that’s that’s option one the other option is again just do movie gun training and what you can do is oftentimes there may be a local instructor, oftentimes a retired police officer that teaches a class for actors and stunt performers.
See somebody you hold a gun properly and move around that kind of thing they have good hearts and good intentions take the class everyone has something to offer other times they could even be like you know an armorer you know who has some buddies here in the stunt business and they put a class together they’re like to take the class it’s worth it right we are always a big advocate of people having many teachers not just one because everyone has something to offer we’re never someone to criticize you oh no they don’t know this person or they haven’t heard of that personnel silliness if they have everyone has something to offer you so you know the courses are very inexpensive and every investment that you make in yourself is always a worthwhile investment.
Now the other option of course are our master courses that we talked about before the the difference with our master courses and the local classes is that the local classes are a class and ours is a master course it’s like in college you know you take a course that may have two classes per week two or three classes per week and this whole course that spans months we have a course so we also would teach in-person classes as well so this is why we just we designed a master course instead because you learn way more in the master course than you could at a local class there’s just only so much you can cover into a two to three hour class especially got like to people in the classroom there’s only a few things you can learn yet the master course.
I mean if you wish to become some john wick proud Mary, you know type badass you can do that because all the lessons are actually in there so where do you think it’s safer to learn tactical training for film and tv purposes movie gun training with plastic movie prop guns that don’t shoot anything watching pre-recorded step-by-step videos combined with live review and polish sessions taught by pro armors so that you’re ready for any audition or performance all taught in the safety comfort privacy and convenience of your own home or on a dangerous gun range surrounded by strangers with guns that shoot real bullets whose intentions experience safety practices and mental capacities are all unknowns plus taught by people who aren’t even in the film business and cant teach you what you need to know to grow your career and there you have it this is why we made the online movie gun training master courses in the first place.
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